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Another Shoulder Injury

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Hi, on the 27 Sep I fell of my bike and hurt my right shoulder, while falling I had my right arm stretched in front of me and I think what done the damage is the neck brace as it pushed right into my shoulder but maybe I`m wrong. After that happen went back to the cars and there was not much pain when not moving my shoulder but soon as  even small movement there was pain, went straight to the doctor who send me to Sunshine hospital as thinking could have dislocated shoulder. Great job at Sunshine emergency department as did not wait long and straight to x-ray, results nothing broken and not dislocated, recommendation from Doctor if still hurts after the weekend see GP and yes it did still hurt, again GP sends me for x-rays but this time had to hold some weights to see if there is any difference between the two shoulders, today got the results and there is a gap on my ac joint, good side is 3mm and the bad side is 6.3mm. GP is not sure will this heal by itself or do I have to see shoulder specialist, he did ring to find more information for the recommendation what to do but still waiting for the answer.

Question doctors did you have any experience with a injure like this and will this heal by itself or definitely need to see a specialist, thanks.

Also yes still feel pain and cant lift anything heavy, very sore in the morning.

 

Few photos from the fall:

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Ah shit Marko that's not good to hear. Get a second opinion from a good sports science

Doctor or physio.

Hope it gets better soon

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Sorry to hear mate! i hope it gets better soon..

 

Come to the annual, we will look after you for the weekend :)

 

Your 1000th post was not the greatest news, hopefully by post 1010 you have some better news for us re your shoulder  ;)

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Not good to hear Marko !!!

 

As Tony said go see someone that knows this type of injure 

Hope you heal up and back on the bike sooner rather than later 

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Not good Marko - sorry to hear its worse than 1st thought...

As above seek a specialists opinion...

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An acromioclavicular joint separation ???

http://thesteadmanclinic.com/shoulder_acseperation/overview.asp

 

If so, welcome to my world  (grade II in my case)

 

My clavicle is to this day still sticking up and i can move it up and down if i push on it. Does not hurt, and i can do 99% of what i like in life.  Restricted strength and movements in certain moves though. The few specialists i saw, said based on my life style... go conservative in the healing (ie natural)

 

the cut/chop/pin option, as they said my cause problems later with arthritis.

 

i have a post on it somewhere... little bit of info...

 

http://www.dirtriderz.com/topic/3276-carrolls-lane-18-12-2011-bikehuman-carnage/?hl=%2Bacromioclavicular+%2Bjoint

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Hi Marko,

If I were you I'd tell my GP that I want a referral to see a specialist. Bear in mind though that most specialist' have a wait list and more than likely will send you off to get an MRI when you do get in...Could take a while mate. Best to get on it straight away, also check with your health fund to see if you're covered for MRI as some do but most don't

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Hi Marko,

If I were you I'd tell my GP that I want a referral to see a specialist. Bear in mind though that most specialist' have a wait list and more than likely will send you off to get an MRI when you do get in...Could take a while mate. Best to get on it straight away, also check with your health fund to see if you're covered for MRI as some do but most don't

 

I must have been really lucky when I did my foot (well after I did my foot anyway!)

I was never an inpatient but after attending Box Hill hospital on the day I was referred to their fractures clinic... several x-rays, a CT scan and MRI were all done on the public system over a period of 4 weeks... up until that point I hadn't lodged a TAC claim.

 

however, If I were you Marko, If you haven't already done so I'd be ringing the TAC and lodging a claim straight away and then going and reporting it with the police.

you need to spend $500 odd ($570ish from memory) before the TAC will start paying for anything, but with x-rays, specialist appointments, MRI's and no doubt several months of physio you will spend past that in no time... and if surgery is required it will blow that well out of the water.... 

 

You pay for TAC insurance, you may as well use it! afterall, it is intended to help with injuries suffered whilst riding on firetrails like the one you WERE on when your unfortunate incident occured....

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Just got back from GP and getting referral  to see the specialist, didn't  ring TAC yet as will see what specialist says first. Hopefully to see specialist will cost less than $500.00 :blink:

Also thanks everybody for the advice.

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With private health cover I was about $1500 out of pocket for the ACL Replacement And repair to bone etc.

But I was fixed almost immediately with the artificial ligaments.

There was a 4 week wait for the public system just to see the specialist, I'd have lost more than $1500 in time off work.

Good luck Marco. Honest, I thought it was bruising when I had a look.

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Number one rule on injuries, expect it to go on and put in claim immediately. They have a heap of bullshit rules to get out of things.

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Just reading the referral from GP:

Wide a\c joint ? need to pin

 

What does need to pin mean?

Ringing tomorrow the specialist to make the appointment and TAC if they working on Saturday.

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Marko, most GP's don't know shit about this, don't freak out, wait till you see your specialist.

 

I have an excellent sports physio I can recommend (we just celebrated our 10 year anniversary!), PM if you'd like to know more.

 

I pulled my right shoulder (ac joint) out of it's socket a long time ago (more than an inch), and it healed with physio and time. F**k pinning your shoulder if you can avoid it, it is the most complicated joint/system in the body. It may just be tendon or ligament damage (or not obviously, I'm no doctor).

 

So sorry to hear mate, whatever it is it will no doubt be debilitating and painful for a while.

 

I cannot stress enough - if someone recommends surgery, get a second and third opinion. If it can heal itself well over time this is by far the best option.

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Hope it turns out well Marko. I had my AC operation about ten or twelve years ago. Healed well as I am sure yours will.

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Marco, most GP's don't know shit about this, don't freak out, wait till you see your specialist.

 

I have an excellent sports physio I can recommend (we just celebrated our 10 year anniversary!), PM if you'd like to know more.

 

I pulled my right shoulder (ac joint) out of it's socket a long time ago (more than an inch), and it healed with physio and time. F**k pinning your shoulder if you can avoid it, it is the most complicated joint/system in the body. It may just be tendon or ligament damage (or not obviously, I'm no doctor).

 

So sorry to hear mate, whatever it is it will no doubt be debilitating and painful for a while.

 

I cannot stress enough - if someone recommends surgery, get a second and third opinion. If it can heal itself well over time this is by far the best option.

would be interesting the results from people here who have pinned and those not (for me i went natural and did not get it pinned)

and how the long term results are. ie strength, movement of the joint under strain.

 

For me, it`s ok for normal everyday thimgs (including bike riding) if i put reverse strain on it, the joint moves, but the body tells me how far to push it....

it has a fair bit of movement as i demonstate to people during a chinwag at the car park, or on the trails.

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For me, it`s ok for normal everyday thimgs (including bike riding) if i put reverse strain on it, the joint moves, but the body tells me how far to push it....

it has a fair bit of movement as i demonstate to people during a chinwag at the car park, or on the trails.

 

Cool, you can show me tomorrow!

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Just got back from GP and getting referral to see the specialist, didn't ring TAC yet as will see what specialist says first. Hopefully to see specialist will cost less than $500.00 :blink:

Also thanks everybody for the advice.

Specialist will be under $500....

But that combined with ongoing physio will get to the limit pretty quickly!

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Number one rule on injuries, expect it to go on and put in claim immediately. They have a heap of bullshit rules to get out of things.

I that's a reference to TAC - I must have been really lucky with my 2 seperate injuries/claims... Never had an issue or had anything questioned...

With the foot, I lodged the claim 4 weeks after the accident when the extent of the damage was discovered, had my surgery at epworth private that night, had to pay the hospital costs out of pocket as the claim wasn't processed yet (obviously!) but got full re-imbursement, they paid all follow up appointments, x-rays, 80% of wages after a total of 10 days off work - which I was able to backdate the days back to the time of the initial injury, from memory over the course of the whole process I had a total of about 25 days off including all appointments and 2 lots of surgery - all pharmaceutical costs, crutches hire.... They even said they would pay for fuel and parking for attending specialist appointments etc (I didn't bother claiming those!)...

So yeah, from my experiences, they don't f around at all!

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Sorry to read Marko. Its the in thing at the moment doing ya shoulder. I had every intention of getting back to the doctors the following weekend (I hope Urustu and thedoc aren't reading!) but family things came up on that weekend and didn't get there. By the time the next weekend came around the pain was getting better. Working for yourself and climbing scaffolds isn't ideal for a bung shoulder. This week I have noticed getting a lot of strength back into my shoulder that doesn't have the same pain associated that the previous weeks have had. Hopefully going to sneak out for a test ride next weekend. 

 

Take it easy mate and dont go wrestling children on trampolines (I think I made it worse on grand final day doing this) and heal up quick, I love reading your Friday ride reports and looking at your photos and rubbing in yet another perfect ride on a weekday

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